I would ask an Authorized Sentricon Operator in your area for advice for your particular situation. They said renewals in my area are $350. The Altriset is a very effective termiticide treatment. I am afraid of discovering pool pipe damage in future years then having to remove treated soil. With a liquid, or a liquid plus bait, you can rest assured that termites will be eliminated from your home. Does that really mean you can let it sit for a year? Do I need a pre-emptive treatment or should I wait until termites are discovered? It is not topical. There is very little way to know where the termites are tunneling since most of the activity is underground. But for active termites nothing is faster than Termidor!! If you dont have termites I recommend a yearly inspection which any reputable company will do at no charge . Authorized Sentricon Operators are not just selling a warranty. Its breakthrough molecular technology allows for half the water, 50% shallower treatment depths, 33% fewer drill holes, and 77% smaller trenches. Was I ripped off??? My money is on Premise or Termidor. I have only used it on one job, so far. can termites in the roof be killed by applying pesticied on the ground or does the house need to be tented? Although I still continue to find live activity in homes where Termidor was applied. Altriset termiticide starts acting on the infestation soon after application on the infested areas. When its stirred up vie digging, isnt the Termidor going to be clinging to the dust that results since it binds to soil? The Sentricon customers that had live termite damage was on 4 of the call backs and the repairs were made much to our customers surprise. I dont want to use something that will have any toxicity to my family now or in years to come, like organophosphates. Sentricon is probably the most green solution out there, but its effectiveness has also been brought into question by a number of so-called experts. WebAlso Termidor. Altriset is highly effective at termite control and can eliminate the infestation within three months if used in the right way. Cancer and insecticides dont mix and as a cancer survivor any heavy duty chemical on my property is a health risk. When they inject termidor 4 feet down, how close will it be the polypipe? I had 2 almost identical posts which were in no way personal, but which were deleted. With Advance, the materials are sold piece-meal. It is true that hundreds of gallons will be used, but most of that is water. The unique Advanced Polymer Technology ensures a more uniform treated zone, and thus a new level of confidence. The HVAC man found them last week all under my home. Chemical is noviflumuron that is non-toxic. I am a fan of chemicals so I am leanings towards Termidor. They just buy from the suppliers and mark it up 50% (or so). Firstline termite bait is the only bait proven to not work , and that I know because about 12 years ago while working for Orkin I had to sign off on several legal documents pertaining to what I could disclose to customers and if asked by the media .If you do choose baits go all pre baited if inspections are more than 2 months apart . Do you think I could have an issue with the plumbing and is it providing moisture for them to live there? Wish I could throw up my hands and accept Termidor but lost a beloved cat to Frontline and very suspicious of fipronil. The world is changing. I thought about going with a bait system, but there seems to be controversy over it, whereas there really doesnt seem to be too much controversy with the Termidor. There is labor and material and expertise involved in each Sentricon Installation. Easy on the environment. These companies that sell termite baiting stations are not honest companies at all. The termiticide is applied in this 6-inches deep trench. The only one less toxic is Premise, but it moves in the soil every time it rains.. Termidor has the same active ingredient as Frontline that you put on your pets for fleas. We just bought a home with extensive termite damage that wasnt found until after closing, despite TWO termite inspections by different companies. Its the next level of control. There is quality information throughout, but what I see is that the best solution varies case by case. I need to ensure that the termites do NOT make it into the house, here is my plan: Pay the quoted $1000 price for Sentricon installation by the pro(Orkin). We have gotten estimates for both the chemical treatment using terminador from co A and premise from co b. Orkin charges $12.00 per foot ( 12 x 150 =1800 ) most small local companies change $6 to $8 per foot ($900 $1200 )and come with just as good if not better guarantee with a more affordable renewal . It works by paralyzing the mouths of termites within hours of exposure, stopping further damage immediately. No move-out is required for localized treatments. I would NOT depend on ANY baiting system to get rid of it. Ehrlich says they wouldnt plant anything in the whole garden. WebAltriset is non-repellent to the termites and also very safe for the environment, probably the safest of all currently available termiticides. The termites are not repelled and in most cases cannot even sense that these chemicals are present. Then Termidor HE is perfect for this section of barrier. Or would Sentricon be a better solution? Right now I am really frustrated and looking through numerous websites. The traps are not that far from the home3 feet maybeI will keep you posted as to when he returns and the result!! Terminix rep claimed it was good for 10-15 years. They both are certified Sentricon dealers. Im thinking that using termidor isnt real smart. In a sense, he pays the equivalent of a new termite job every three years. Termidor is very effective against termites as well as other pests such as ants and bugs. Will I ever get rid of these pests?!! A guy like you who, unlike some of us, knows how to treat people could go real far. Not only will the product eliminate termites in these areas, it will also provide long-lasting protection. I live in NE Fl and I just found termites (flying) in my house (outdoor patio, none found inside). While the Oster T Finisher specializes with its precision, the Andis T Outliner specializes by providing pure power. The attic is unfinished and gets below freezing during the winter. EPA regulation says all termiticides must show initial signs of breaking down in 3 5 years. Just remember that theyre not a magic bullet, you wont see results right away, and the company you hire has to know what theyre doing for the product to work. Company A would charge $500, use .06 concentration, and then $75/year to maintain the warranty. Advice, please? From what Ive read, its far more effective than Sentricon, and not particularly dangerous to people. The few extra dollars spent are well worth it. I dont push prevention treatments like some companies do.. I had the sentricon system installed in my house last October when we first found out we had termites. Hey Vern, why do you even use liquids if the Sentricon is so effective? Both were highly recommended for commercial use but I wasnt sure how much residential experience they have and whether it matters? Ron could you please post the link about Do Nan Yao Su saying that Sentricon is only 20% effective against subterranean termites? Other company reps report equal success with bait vs. chemicals but they ARE slicker sales guys. I live in the heart of the south in Mississippi. Termidor HE offers you as a customer a premium service. You are living in the dark ages. Stop looking so much at the price. I am going to have a Termidor treatment done. I plan to ask the company to come back to foam saturated the wall with Termidor or Premise. I have had a complete Termidor treatment, and they have done an interior dusting twice, including drilling in under my tub deck in the master and shooting the dust there. The site inclused supposed statements from entomologists and people in the industry about how ineffective the baits are. First, I stumbled upon this thread while researching some quotes for a class I am teaching and I honestly sat and read the entire thread in one sitting. They are a great company with great customer service, so get your facts straight. So, the barrier created stays effective longer. Also they dont offer a warranty. (949) 631-7348. site map | ordering | shopping cart / checkout. And isnt the test material in advances also poisonous to a degree? Has strong trophollaxis effect and is very effective. It happens all the time, realtors are mostly all crooked!!! Read the label Jay. If we treat now, the workers will stir up a ton of dust (Termidor sticks to soil) which will pose a danger to workers and us, and spread the poison around the surface of our property. Like I have said before baits are a cross your fingers and wait method . They are hard and designed to last underground for up to 5 years. 9:00 am - 4:30 pm Central Time, Copyright 1997 - 2022 ePestSupply / ePestControl.com. The bait is put in from the beginning and only needs to be monitored once a year to add bait. There are many options when it comes to controlling the termite infestation. We do not sell this product or other Restricted Use Pesticides. Like I said before, last year after the application..GONE!! Price for the Sentricon should be about $700 $1,000 for installation and 1 year of monitoring. Its possible that Anthonys comments got inadvertently caught up in that purge. I called orkin. This sounds like a routine treatment. It is merely a more controlled treatment that is less intrusive and not nearly as environmentally hazardous. I know its a bit late for some of the previous questions, but maybe it will help down the line. The polymer then dissipates and thus allows the fipronil to bind to the soil. It works on termites only and does not affect humans or pets negatively. Try to keep up! Termidor HE came to Australia in early 2018. Well, I can call him a nut, because I know him personally. Termidor is labeled for indoor use if youre drilling an interior expansion joint or foaming a termite infested wall. Termidor has to application rates. A termidor or Premise chemical treatment would last much longer and cost much less. How can you tell how safe a product is to use? Jim. You are right that in once they find some wood they like they will call the other termites over with phermones, absolutely. The termites then then die due to lack of activity and inability to eat. I work for Orkin, and I think very highly of the company. Thanks guys. You can buy both Advance and Sentricon on e-bay. Do you think it would be feasible for me to persuade a local company to use Altriset for the first time for my application? If you want a quick kill, go Termidor. WebBoth termite direct kill and termite indirect kill termite treatments deliver on their promise to end your infestation fast. Please do not hesitate to contact Michael: I have a log home. The baits ( Sentricon, Advance, Firstline Ect.) 66 of 69 people found this answer helpful. All of them get regular updates on laws, regulations, product innovations, training and business matters. He told me it was termites and I should get treatment. Although I was recently called by someone with active termites who had been using another local small company like me for years . I wouldnt be afraid to use it though. It controls the infestation totally in three months. Anthony: It depends. Using a termite baiting system without first killing the localized termite infestation with a termite insecticide can allow the termites to continue feeding until control with the baits are achieved. This spring, while doing some light remodeling to our attached garage on a slab, I found what looked like old termite damage (fairly severe) in wood plank siding underneath steel siding that is about 15 years old. If I pay extra for the warranty will any of the big companies cover the possible damage caused by termites? Termidor IS tested to last at least ten years, but I highly recommend keeping the warrantee, because as we say in this business there is no silver bullet. The termite thinks they are from the same colony since they are close. Hexaflumuron is the active ingredient in the original generation of Sentricon. I was just doing a search for more info on Sentricon and found this site: http://www.syix.com/emu/html/sentricon.html. I think termidor is best since I know I have a colony that can continue to attack other pipes and the house. You want the cheapest price. It has the same active ingredient (Fipronil) as Frontline Flea and Tick control, which is safe to apply directly to your animals skin. I have not used Altriset but I have used Arilon which is a new and similar product also from Dupont . I can tell you from a lot of experience that Termidor control rates are around 99% and Sentricon is around 98%. 3) The company that treated you home will probably come back and inspect free whenever you have a concern. I want the termites GONE NOW! Altriset will control drywood and subterranean termite populations in three months or less when properly applied. I like working with it better because of that. I asked if they would treat upstairs too, but he said no that downstairs and outside would be enough. The whole point of a non-repellant is to transfer the poison without the termites realizing what is going on which leads me to believe that he is lying. The rest of the basement was drywalled 2 years ago with no sign of termite activity. I am a small person (58 148 lbs) and was able to get into these small areas but I doubt many other people could. It goes under the ground. Some companies my do a spot liquid treatment to get a jumpstart on the termites, but it is not required, nor recommended. We were being told by the region manager to spray water , thats when I walked away. What did he tell you they were using? I am sure but no evidence yet that theyve also gone in thru my stoop as well. WebAlso Termidor. Dan another option for you is to purchase Advanced Bait systems from a doityourself website. In most cases, if youre using the termite Sentricon system, youll be in a contract that states youll receive conventional treatment if Sentricon doesnt work in two years. If you have termites in your home, buy a drill, masonry bits, and some termiticideat Lowes. Termidors 10 year tests show plenty enough strength to kill with an estimated 15 year max in the right soil conditions.. termidor does not dilute every time it rains like other products such as Premise 75.. TB I agree with you. They (or at least the one I worked at) did work that was second to none and treated their customers very fairly. No. Then, take a look at the section on the product label where it talks about first aid measures: What you just read about these first aid measures is unbelievable and I know of no other termite treatment product that even comes close to this level of safety. What if a water line goes bad and needs to be replaced, or I get a new communications line, etc. They are highly effective or most companies wouldnt use them. It prevents further termite damage as well. 1.1 g/cm3 ( 20 C) Vapour density: not applicable Partitioning coefficient n-octanol/water (log Pow): not applicable With the exception of Firstline which is the only bait system proven to not give colony elimination , the difference really comes in the company you choose . 2 gallon bucket. No treatment will be needed inside the house. We got a recent quote from Terminx, the program costs about $359 a yr as long as no termites are found within a 5ft barrier of the house. I also have 50 years experience as a pest control professional and I can say without hesitation or reservation that the particular brand of pest control product that my company sells is far superior to all other alternatives in every way, and I encourage you to pay no attention to distractions such as damage warranties or other reasonable measures of capability or confidence and simply trust my assurance that the product from which I stand to gain financially is the best one. Were thinking about the sentricon system with termidor spot treatment in the house where the critters have been spotted (2 walls). Altriset is labeled Reduced-Risk by the EPA and presents no health risk to humans or domestic animals when used as directed. It wont just wipe out termites right away. They will not all feast on the bait station, as some will tunnel right past it. I believe they do both treatments too. Termidor, on the other hand, is a chemical termiticide that provides a soil barrier surrounding your house. If that stuff leaks, then how porous is it? After reading back my post, I realise I mentioned an ant pile.. so thats not termites will Termidor take care of them though? WebTermidor is not systemic and does not affect plant life around your home. I am at a dilemmq as to which product is the best to use to treat our community. It contains the same chemical, Fipronil, as Termidor SC. Termidor is termidor right? or is this a case where I need to pray to the termite poison god that Sentricon gets this done? Just think about what you just read for a minute. You can rent hammer drills from any tool rental center. However, both options deliver solutions on their own timeframe and have a very different impact on your budget, the environment, and your life. They will drill holes in the garage floor and put Termidor there as well as around the house and porch and patio. Even with all the precision prowess of the T Finisher, it fails to give a closer cut compared to the T Outliner. I must say that After the treatment I did not see ANY signs of termites or carpenter ants almost immediately! I have asked a couple big local owned company and they all said they are authorized to do both Sentricon and Termidor. I am thinking about getting a termite job to our house to keep termites out. So, the barrier created stays effective longer. Keep up the good work. Just to recap, when we remodeled our home in the spring of 2009, we found termites and a small amount of termite damage in the middle of our basement on two support posts and a few framing members. Because they are environmentally friendly AND they work. With more than 20 years of research and 16 years of market performance, Termidor termiticide is the most trusted name in termite control. There were a lot of hurt feelings in the industry from those that did not get selected, therefore they badmouth Sentricon every chance they get. If you want real protection talk to a family owned company. Lawn & Garden , Pre Emergent Herbicides (Weed Preventers), Shop Ants love to get in those systems, and once there, termites will never enter them again. Should I be? As far as a one or even a five year guarantee, both of those are a little short. So when a station is costing $10 and the bait tubes cost $15 to the vendor, they will think twice about putting in extra stations or bait tubes. And if you do choose baits SIZE COUNTS. We have had two estimates one from Orkin and the other from Terminex. I called a different termite company to check since the other company said they found no termites in March. The termites then then die due to lack of activity and inability to eat. It is over 98% effective, which is about the same as Termidor. The techs have said that the foundation of the home is before you step out onto the tiled-in porch and if we use the Termidor treatment theyd have to drill into the tiles (splitting them) to get the liquid along the porch area/foundation (about 10ft by 10ft). I have done over 10,000 termite inspections and treatments in my career. That should lower your cost because they dont have to make as many visits. With time, these termites get more paralyzed and eventually die. So now we will have to do treatment and was wondering if we went to Termindor for the outside would they also do additional treatment inside to kill the termites in the house, or is Termindor enough. I have read that the tubes get pheromones from active termites, which may ward off future colony workers. Didnt like the idea of gallons of the chemical in the yard with kids, dogs and cats running through it. All Animal Care , Shop All Sentricon can not be purchased on line. Altriset is more effective than many other termiticides and is highly popular for its safe and low-toxic attributes. Can you spend a little bit extra? Check your facts before you decide to lie about them. Over time as the termite activity has disappeared the extra bait stations were removed. Termidor is the best way to treat a house for termites. Long Plastic Funnel. The former owner got a local company to spot treat the area with Termidor, and put Sentricon around the house. We bought some permetrin to spray them as we removed the rest. Missy, When it comes to active termites, the Sentricon is truly a cross your fingers, hope, and wait method. Achieve additional savings on deep-footed structures. I didnt see the insects anymore until a few days ago. I only hope that everyone else who stumbles upon this page and its comments reads all the way to the end. Just my opinion..no way I let anyone dig around my entire house plus drill holes through the floors then pour chemical that they claim to last 15 years. Use "Spacebar" or "Enter" to expand the My Account navigation menu. BOTH methods work. In 1986 my property was treated to prevent termite damage. As big fan of Termidor I have now seen 2 failures , both done by Terminix. Termidor SC is the Suspended Concentrate, which is a liquid concentrate. Mix the normal amount of termiticide and then add in 2-4 oz of foaming agent such as ProFoam Platinum Concentrate. They missed a lot at the outset. To play it safe I would have the house tented and then treat the soil. Jay is right to say the farther north you are the higher the prices.Down south with a year round bug season there are alot of companies competing. Sentricon system is no longer offered by Terminix who inspected our home last week. In my career personal, but what i see is that the get... 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